Comments on: The Zion Curtain: the Future of Bar Technology http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:28:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Flaherty http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-13327 David Flaherty Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:48:08 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-13327 Mike, I appreciate the boots-on-the-ground update. Admittedly, the last time I stepped foot in Utah, I had barely scratched puberty, so I'm pretty removed from the scene. I need to get myself back there to load up on the new microbreweries and head into Arches National Park for some r&r. Mike, I appreciate the boots-on-the-ground update. Admittedly, the last time I stepped foot in Utah, I had barely scratched puberty, so I’m pretty removed from the scene. I need to get myself back there to load up on the new microbreweries and head into Arches National Park for some r&r.

]]> By: Mike Wells http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-13309 Mike Wells Tue, 30 Aug 2011 04:29:48 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-13309 //"And then, to add insult to injury, as we were driving away, my buddy noticed that the beer was 3.2% alcohol (in fact NO beer sold in Utah could be more than this). "// Sorry David, you are completely and totally wrong on this (At least 400% wrong... ;-) ). No beer on tap can be more than 3.2%, and no beer sold in a grocery store can be more than 3.2%, but bars CAN sell stronger beers, and you CAN buy them at the State Liquor Store. This creates a problem for the business, because they have to basically sell the beer to the state, and then buy it back, passing the "savings" on to the customer, but you can still buy stronger beer. Case in point: Squatter's Brewery has a wonderful IPA called 'Hop Rising'. In a normal state, I would go to the brewery and buy a pint of this for between $4 and $5, maybe even less... Here, I think it's $6 or $6.50 for a 12 ounce bottle because of this, but like I said, I CAN stil purchase it. //”And then, to add insult to injury, as we were driving away, my buddy noticed that the beer was 3.2% alcohol (in fact NO beer sold in Utah could be more than this). “//

Sorry David, you are completely and totally wrong on this (At least 400% wrong… ;-) ).

No beer on tap can be more than 3.2%, and no beer sold in a grocery store can be more than 3.2%, but bars CAN sell stronger beers, and you CAN buy them at the State Liquor Store. This creates a problem for the business, because they have to basically sell the beer to the state, and then buy it back, passing the “savings” on to the customer, but you can still buy stronger beer.

Case in point: Squatter’s Brewery has a wonderful IPA called ‘Hop Rising’. In a normal state, I would go to the brewery and buy a pint of this for between $4 and $5, maybe even less… Here, I think it’s $6 or $6.50 for a 12 ounce bottle because of this, but like I said, I CAN stil purchase it.

]]> By: David Flaherty http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-8569 David Flaherty Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:38:53 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-8569 Right on, Erin. Glad to hear it. I need to get back for some "researching". Right on, Erin. Glad to hear it. I need to get back for some “researching”.

]]> By: erin s http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-8544 erin s Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:20:13 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-8544 love high west! was there a couple of weeks ago, and it's great that utah loosened the laws a bit, allowing this great whiskey into my life :) and great food, too! love high west! was there a couple of weeks ago, and it’s great that utah loosened the laws a bit, allowing this great whiskey into my life :) and great food, too!

]]> By: David Flaherty http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-3548 David Flaherty Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:25:58 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-3548 This is awesome news, David, thanks for the update. Welcome to the 21st century, Utah. (Although I'll have to see it to believe it!) That being said, it's certainly time for me to start planning a whiskey/ski trip. I'll have to look for your whiskey. May be a nice fit at our restaurant. Best, David This is awesome news, David, thanks for the update. Welcome to the 21st century, Utah. (Although I’ll have to see it to believe it!)

That being said, it’s certainly time for me to start planning a whiskey/ski trip. I’ll have to look for your whiskey. May be a nice fit at our restaurant.

Best, David

]]> By: David Perkins http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-3547 David Perkins Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:58:45 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-3547 David, I just discovered your blog and have enjoyed it. Commenting on the Zion post, I hope you know this has all changed and its time you return to Utah! Private clubs are eliminated, you CAN buy full strength beer here, and most importantly, Utah now has the world's only ski-in distillery. A gastro-distillery actually. Its my place and called High West Distillery. I hope one day you'll visit. If you are a whiskey fan I hope you get to try our stuff too (actually in NYC in a few spots). Best, David Perkins David, I just discovered your blog and have enjoyed it. Commenting on the Zion post, I hope you know this has all changed and its time you return to Utah! Private clubs are eliminated, you CAN buy full strength beer here, and most importantly, Utah now has the world’s only ski-in distillery. A gastro-distillery actually. Its my place and called High West Distillery. I hope one day you’ll visit. If you are a whiskey fan I hope you get to try our stuff too (actually in NYC in a few spots).
Best,
David Perkins

]]> By: Alexis http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-1103 Alexis Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:15:14 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-1103 Utah is a long way from Alabama. We stopped at a gas station store on our drive back from the Gulf Shores, and they had cans of beer ON ICE, visible as soon as you walked in. A whole slew of them, all different kinds, some cans priced as low as 60 cents, sitting in ice in these huge tubs the size of those above groud pools, chilled to perfection. Those cans were not meant to be drunk at home if you know what I mean. Is it still illegal to drink and drive? Utah is a long way from Alabama. We stopped at a gas station store on our drive back from the Gulf Shores, and they had cans of beer ON ICE, visible as soon as you walked in. A whole slew of them, all different kinds, some cans priced as low as 60 cents, sitting in ice in these huge tubs the size of those above groud pools, chilled to perfection. Those cans were not meant to be drunk at home if you know what I mean. Is it still illegal to drink and drive?

]]> By: David Flaherty http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/2009/03/14/the-zion-curtain-the-future-of-bar-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-10555 David Flaherty Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:25:32 +0000 http://www.grapesandgrainsnyc.com/?p=614#comment-10555 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The art of the bartender being relegated to behind a 10-foot wall? Oh Utah, what is wrong with you? http://tiny.cc/QObwI</span></span> The art of the bartender being relegated to behind a 10-foot wall? Oh Utah, what is wrong with you? http://tiny.cc/QObwI

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